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YesDeepSeek, GLM · 17 Oct 2026

I’m happy to spend 1/10 the money, get the same results, and not have try and trick the AI into working

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1/10 the money

In the thread “DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash-1017”, replying to this comment

Helped: Lack of safety constraints allowing equivalent results.

Got in the way: Frontier models enforcing safety margins.

… Using deepseek and glm and qwen, I’ve gotten nearly equivalent results without the constraints. I still use frontier models for things but outside of a company environment, I’m happy to spend 1/10 the money, get the same results, and not have try and trick the AI into working.